Had some fun with this. Rules:
- When a tankie post comes up, post a legitimate, fair argument. Do not argue in bad faith. No matter how nasty the post may be. Legitimately combat the disinformation there by going into their bubble and posting a sane response.
- Watch the responses come in. Especially if the post is on the tankie triad.
- Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t respond to anything, unless there is actually a legitimate attempt to have a legitimate discussion. Otherwise, start a game of tankie bingo to help prevent yourself from responding to the madness.
Suggestions for expansion welcome.
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@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth good morning, I see you’re active on that thread over there!
I’m glad that they post these threads so I know who to block.
political dissent is “allowed” in China
I just watched a woman get fucking executed in her car for absolutely fucking nothing.
America has 1 fifth of the population of China and yet has more total prisoners. And you call CHINA the authoritarian country???
Wake the fuck up
using pet names condescendingly
No that’s a distinctly liberal trait “sweetie”.
I just watched a woman get fucking executed in her car for absolutely fucking nothing.
Libs just think these are isolated incidents in the US but if something similar happens in Bad Country it’s because the leader of Bad Country personally ordered it to happen. They don’t have any thoughts in those big empty heads of theirs
Half of these you could sub with “has evidence for claims” and the other “wants to force me to read”
Every time I see liberals complaining that the evil tankies want to make them read, the supposed reeducation that they accuse commies of forcing our ideological opposition through seems like a good idea and something they really need.
I hate “everyone is twelve” as a political situation analysis, but goddamn do these people sound like schoolkids who don’t want to do their required reading.
The dork in that thread wanting to add being called transphobic, babe, baby, sugar, you are telling on yourself so hard rn
can anyone tell me the difference between an insult and a putdown? Is the former where i call them a fucker, and the later when i call them a lowlife little fuck?
interesting… looking into it
post a legitimate, fair argument. Do not argue in bad faith.
Nice try, but this is clearly a Hexbear alt trying to psyop liberals into arguing in good faith /s
EDIT: well, to the surprise of no one, it’s made its way to the slop community at Hexbear. Aaaand again, they totally miss the glaringly obvious point.
@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth what’s the point if it’s so obvious? There’s various comments here that went through the arduous task of breaking down the things you wrote in your meme and responding to them. I take it that us “tankies” are simply too unskilled at the English language and rhetoric for it to even be necessary to address these before you claim victory?
Go ahead, you’re federated with us!
Also, @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth, it’s not nice to put that little rules section in your post where the first one is to always engage in good faith with tankies when yesterday you were in the thread comparing the Tank Man in China to Renee Nicole Good’s murder and claimed they were both executed, then proceeded to blatantly ignore all requests for evidence for that claim and dismissed them all. That’s good faith? You even admitted that the one article you did click on you only read for a little bit.
Really cheeky to put Tiananmen Square Massacre denial in a square too, for someone who claims it happened yet has no sources.
They’re both not banned from here and they’ve made comments here in the past 24 hours. Plainly speaking they’re a coward and a fascist if they don’t show up to defend their lies
Posting on Hexbear is too scary. Better post on the community moderated by a Zionazi who openly keeps repeating Israeli lies about the Palestinian resistance
Reddit?
I meant the meanwhileongrad comm which is modded by goat, who was saying the only legitimate way for Palestinians to resist genocide is to lie down and take it just yesterday.
Isn’t that the one that’s obsessed about communist control of lemmy?
Yes but they’re too late to stop us now.
I don’t get why these people can’t change their views once presented with evidence that contradicts their worldview. I used to think Tank Man turned into a pancake, then I saw the full video and read lots of articles from several perspectives, read on-the-ground reports, etc. I’m not denying it was a tragic event but I’m also not going to sit here and say “CCP bad!” for a few reasons:
- People are rarely purely “good” or “bad”
- Sames goes for nations
- The situation was more complicated than American History lessons would lead you to believe
- Governments can make mistakes and still be worthy of support
I know, insert False Witnesses here. I just wish people would learn that we’re not gung-ho about this stuff. The big difference between me and you Mr. Lib is I apply more critical thinking and am willing to conclude “it’s not that simple”.
Is this an autism thing to dig deeper into history? Are most people happy living with surface-level knowledge of countries they don’t live in? Which OK fine… I don’t know much about the NFL but you don’t see me vehemently defending the Eagles’ conversion rate because I wouldn’t know what I’m talking about!
I don’t think it’s an autism thing but I’m a fellow autist that finds this pattern of behavior extremely frustrating.
You’d think they would recognise that this counts as “nuance” but “nuance” is when you say “Enemies of the US bad and irredeemable cartoon villains, but US isn’t perfect either, so I’m not biased.”
I’d love for them to explain how Taiwan is a country and how Taiwan understands the situation.
This is a matter of hard facts. It should be a cinch to prove that it’s a country, right?
Really cheeky to put Tiananmen Square Massacre denial in a square too, for someone who claims it happened yet has no sources.
South African white genocide denial
Isn’t their entire point of the bingo bad faith?
I don’t know, they said the point of their post couldn’t be more obvious and I’m having a bit of trouble understanding it myself (after all, I suffer from the tankie physiognomy) so I’m waiting for clarification.
@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth You are welcome to come here with actual arguments instead of hiding away in the liberal Vatican.
For someone who won’t stop waxing poetic about the philosophy of truth you seem to have a hard time understanding how burden of proof works, so I’ll just make things simple: why don’t you provide evidence for your claims instead of seeking validation from politically illiterate babies who worship at the altar of liberal orthodoxy? Why don’t you respond to the criticisms of your infantile points instead of editing your post to whine about them?
@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth How are you not in an echo chamber? You flee whenever you encounter valid arguments conflicting with your worldview and you do this kind of stuff. Also your breath stinks.
Had some fun with this. Rules:
When a tankie post comes up, post a legitimate, fair argument.
They means tested their own bingo game out of existence
Keep in mind, it’s this person from yesterday’s Tiananmen Square thread. So they can’t follow their own rules.
Liberal rules for “argument”:
1. Make shit up
2. Ask bad faith rhetorical questions
3. Demand proof that the shit you just made up didn’t happen
4. Run back crying to your liberal shithole to post about how you epicly owned the commies
Link to wikipedia
get mad when I get linked to prolewiki
If you ask a communist why you should believe what it says on ProleWiki
”You can easily peruse the numerous sources used to substantiate their claims.”If you ask a liberal why you should believe what it says on Wikipedia
”IT’S OBJECTIVE TRUTH, COMMIE. DARE YOU QUESTION THE SACRED TEXTS???”
Ok, I know I asked for a lib that could actually engage with us seriously and intellectually, but at this point I’m just asking for a lib that isn’t a pathetic loser.
maybe the next liberal will be better than the last oneLiberal self-selection has you beat, anyone going to bat for liberalism in 2026 is a mondo-loser
Tankies don’t operate on the basis of parties. They are authoritarians, so when they mean CCP, they mean Xi. When they mean Russia, they mean Putin.
Legitimately one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Western China-watchers are constantly going on about Xi’s personal ambitions to take Taiwan (nonsense), or going on about ‘Putin’s War’, but we’re the ones who see things through the lense of individual “great men”?
It definitely feels like
All I EVER hear from Libs is how “if this one bad man goes, everything would be fine”, without realising these people are in power with the support of the political class surrounding them.
I’ve seen Xiposting but I’ve never seen anyone who calls themself communist praise Putin
I’ve probably praised Putin a few times for successes in the SMO, but my opinion of him is still negative overall for all of the ceding ground to reactionaries and capitalists in Russia, war crimes, and in general being a centrist lib.
I also don’t exactly consider myself a communist so I guess this isn’t a counterexample.
I think “Putin is smart” is the most I’ve seen, yeah. He’s no dummy
well he genuinely thought NATO would let him join lol
That’s because he assumed NATO would do the logical thing of making sure Russia’s huge resource rich territory and strategic location wouldn’t help their other rival China by getting Russia on their side.
Throwing a tantrum and forcing Russia to get closer to China even though they would have happily sided with them just because the NATO ghouls were still salty about Putin not letting them turn Russia into a cheap labor vassal and loot its resources was objectively a stupid thing to do, hence why someone thinking about geopolitics logically would have had trouble seeing it coming.
Not letting Russia into the imperialism club was a huge strategic mistake in terms of maintaining capitalist hegemony. But was also an inevitable product of capitalist greed - NATO ghouls didn’t want to share the imperialism, they wanted to subject Russia to it too. The logic was simple - line go up was more important than long-term stability.
Thankfully, that greedy decision seems to be seriously leading to NATO’s downfall in the long run.
There was a bit around the online discourse regarding the breakaway republics in Donbas but it was more a flash in the pan, or some sort of tangential thing to the rhetoric about Nazis in Ukraine
In one sentence they bemoan demcen as anti democratic and in the next they say we operate on great men and not on parties and social forces. It’s classic fascist doublethink. The enemy is both weak and strong. Tankies love one party systems and centering the whole country on its communist party, but tankies also love individual party leaders and admire a strongman dictator if he’s wearing commie symbols and his throne is painted red.
They don’t know what democratic centralism means, don’t give them that much credit.
They don’t have to know what demcen is to insist they don’t like it. They just never actually call it democratic centralism.
But yeah, no, none of these people know what those words mean, true. If you say that phrase you won’t get anywhere. It’s funny just how often they’ll scream about the horrible ways socialist one party systems work, then turn around and complain that their own country’s political parties can’t handle their disagreements internally and present a united front.
As opposed to liberals
who don’t do cult of personality 
Liberal bingo: Accuses us of living in an echo chamber, follows up with picture of tank man
Dude I think tank man is straight up liberal kryptonite seeing how far these people are going to defend their fantasies of the guy getting executed. You hit them with the video of the tanks stopping in their tracks to wait for the road to clear, then they invariably say that they’re sure he was executed regardless, and then they unwind completely when pushed on why they think this way. It’s the cognitive dissonance that never stops giving.
they invariably say that they’re sure he was executed regardless
My fucking school textbooks went this route. We weren’t actually shown the video of course but the description went something along the lines of “the tanks stopped, the guy talked with the tank crews, and he walked away never to be seen again”. It didn’t outright state that the CCP disappeared him but that’s the conclusion they clearly wanted you to reach
Yeah he was never seen again because no one knows who he is! He could be anyone!
sorry guys it was me i thought i saw my bro in there
then they invariably say that they’re sure he was executed regardless
I’ve started spouting crazy conspiracy theories in response. “Oh yeah and Hillary Clinton is a reptile. I’ve as much evidence for that anyways, and the vibes right.” It’s not constructive, but at that point you’re arguing with a fantasist anyway
I was saying I thought tank man started HRT and became tank girl in the other thread.
Actually Tank Man is Xi Jinping. Xi was 36 at the time of the protests. His early political career started in Hebei, which is close enough. Allegedly he was in fujian province, but I know for a fact he took a day-trip to Beijing. This is also why he’s building so much highspeed rail. It’s because making that trip was a real pain back in the day. Also why he stopped the tanks, he was asking for a ride.
Stopping a tank to ask for a ride does sound like the kind of ballsy shit some of the original Bolsheviks were known for. Glad to hear our current vanguard leaders are upholding a proud tradition of the communist movement.
No I had dinner with tank man the other day, he’s actually Jack Ma
Aprapos of nothing, last year a Chinese woman was throwing racist insults and slurs at a black woman on camera in China. She was then made to apologize to the victim by the police or face charges.
In the same year, a woman was throwing racial slurs at a black child in America. She was then able to make over a million dollars on a crowd funding website.
Also in 2025, China pledged $100 million USD to Palestine on top of existing UNRWA support, after hosting talks and a unity deal between Hamas and Fatah in 2024
In the same year in America… They don’t recognise Palestine as a state at all and are actively supporting the entity committing genocide against them.
Could China be doing more? Yeah, absolutely, and I wish for China to do more. The bar is fairly low, it’s very easy to clear it. Is the US actively dragging that bar down? Yeah, absolutely, and I wish a very [redacted] for the whole US empire.
Aprapos of nothing, last year a Chinese woman was throwing racist insults and slurs at a black woman on camera in China. She was then made to apologize to the victim by the police or face charges.
Based
Anti-tankie bingo except all the squares just say “projection”
Oh and the free square is “won’t leave their CIA backed echo chamber.” I can prove that one is free because not a single one of this will come here and defend themselves. See I’ll prove it @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth come defend yourself, show us that you’re actually the More Reasonable, More Civil Person
They’ll prove they’re more civil by saying something very dunkable, getting dunked on, and showing some exemplary discipline and intellectual honesty by simply not replying and going back to their zionazi community. You know, like they did yesterday when they claimed tank man was executed.
I find it frustrating how common an occurence it is for some asshole to wander into a public forum, declare an obvious untruth, ignore all well-meaning replies, only engage with low-effort dunks and typically to respond with some variation of “you like communism? don’t you even know about Tibet?” and then get indignant when they’re treated like the condescending jerks they are.
“But I didn’t say a single swear! That means I was polite, you have to respect me!”“The CIA said so and all the white countries that are subservient to US interests agree so it MUST be true”
Look! I totally owned the Tankie Triad with this bingo I scored on them!!!The bingo: They insulted me, they called me transphobic, they came from hexbear, they used putdowns, they used condescending pet names
Suck it, red fascists!!! Owned again!!!They insulted me, they called me transphobic, they came from hexbear, they used putdowns, they used condescending pet names
love this server
Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t respond to anything
The cowardice of these losers is hilarious, they’re scared to death of actually engaging with even our more pedestrian takes, instead they want to hugbox themselves to death and scream at the walls
Hey, they actually said
Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t respond to anything, unless there is actually a legitimate attempt to have a legitimate discussion.
We often fail to provide well-meaning Lemmy users with legitimate arguments and good faith discussion. You know, like yesterday when @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth was telling us about how Tank Man was executed and we started responding really unfair things, like
Why do you think tank man was killed?
You got any sources to ground that assertion in reality, or are you completely full of shit?
And Joe Biden wwas replaced by a body double halfway through his term <- a statement with the same amount of proof and the same basis in reality
In the future, we should be better and try to have a legitimate discussion. I think it would be nice if we instead said something like, “Gee, I hadn’t thought about it that way! I guess you might be right, and if I imagine that China has executed any given person hard enough, it becomes true!” or something along those lines.
From 3 hours ago, @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth has complained about @CyborgMarx@hexbear.net misquoting their comment. They stated the following:
For a fucking bullshit bingo game lol.
At this point I could play the game with the hexbear thread. They’ve already misquoted me by cutting off a part of my sentence to make it look like you should never even talk to them, lest they be right. My God, learn to fucking read lol.
Oh, and they’re discussing the difference between putdowns and insults. I dunno, I learned that shit in school. In a school in the West even! Oh, the horror!
https://sh.itjust.works/post/53221142/23188823
No acknowledgement of my comment where I responded to the full quote because I thought it was even better when taken as a whole.
lmao I knew that would get under his dumbass skin, proof he reads the threads and actively refused to answer any questions from the Tank Men thread, what a coward
@unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth you’re scared
I made an alt to ask them directly since they’re in their little embassy now and now they’re claiming that they never said Tank Man was killed.
Except that’s the thing: I never claimed tank man was killed (at least, that we know of). I mean, that was the fascination of the whole thing, that he wasn’t just run over by the tanks, especially considering what happened afterwards. Which is the reason, at least as far as I can tell, that the video got so popular.
I made an alt to ask them directly
ty for wading into the cesspitThe alt was banned by automod but I’m having a conversation with someone about goat’s Zionism
When liberals whine about tankies not being well meaning they mean “heretics dared to question gospel truth”
Anyway, @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth murdered a college student in 2009 and chopped their body up before dumping it off the side of a cruise ship in the Caribbean. Everyone knows this happened because everyone knows that @unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth is exactly the type of person who would do this sort of thing. Anyone engaging in murder-and-dismemberment denial will be banned.
Yeah, you actually provide a source and it’s like “that’s not even from a
corporatecredible source”, god forbid you link counterpunch, dropsite or whatever bc then you’re a Russian propagandist(???) and the fucking Mossad bias meter comes out.Forget about even linking anything in another language, only anglos are smart enough to do journalism.
Don’t feed the trolls. Don’t respond to anything, unless there is actually a legitimate attempt to have a legitimate discussion.
Cowbee nevers calls people names and tries to have a discussion but every time they call him manipulative propagandist or make up lies about him
Yep, but it ends up useful for me anyways from a purely rhetorical perspective. I try to avoid cheap rhetorical wins in the first place, but if they shoot themselves in the foot even after I point out how it’s backfiring I can’t really do much
Yet they’ll still say we’re the one locked in an echo chamber.
- Using pet names condescendingly (?)
- Putdowns
- Insults
- Get your mental state questioned (???)
i feel like i could do it with the same liberal condescension but without putting the same thing 4 times
I was wondering if it was trying to insult tankies through the bingo card, or if it was saying that tankies use these argument points themselves
I mean, I could place way more valid bingo spots, these people couldn’t even do 10 minutes of research in the news mega to find what they dislike?
it’s because they get agitated from questioning their worldview. there’s a distinct feeling in the pit of their stomach that tells them to stop reading. sometimes you can tell because they’ll dismiss an argument out of hand or they’ll say “read a book” or “i have better things to do than this”. i know because i used to be a shitlib and i had to learn to push past that feeling before i could be a marxist. anyway they can’t ever learn anything about us until they learn to ignore that feeling when they have to
