I think a lot of it is also based on fear of retribution. Killing someone is super hard to get away with when the dead guy is considered important. IE - nobody knows how to make a bullet untraceable, everyone has cameras on every doorstep, everyone has a tracker in their pockets and every search or keystroke you make is recorded. Even if someone ices an ICE agent in self defense, the courts will never take the defendant’s side, if it ever goes to court and the defendant isn’t found hanging from a tree about 2 days later.
Not only that, killing is hard. Shooting another human being, no matter how reprehensible they are, is difficult at best. People aren’t just scared of being killed, they’re scared of killing. A lot of people talk a lot of talk of being willing to defend themselves, their property or their family, but how many could will themselves to pull the trigger without hesitation? Because the agents sure don’t hesitate.
It’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I’ve shot living things before, never a person. Even then, it’s always been ‘something that has to be done.’ Either to end suffering or to cull a population. It still never felt good. I don’t know if I could ever do it to a person, especially if I could see their face or eyes.
I’d say it’s more fear of being killed. Which I get, I can relate, I’m a coward too - I just don’t brag about it. Thing is, even from a self preservation standpoint, they’re wrong. Trouble will find you. Capitulating will only make the situation worse.
I’d argue it’s a reasonable learned response to fear from an authority figure. Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn. Fawn is the only one that helps when accosted by a parent, teacher, boss, or a cop.
Punch your dad? You get the belt worse. Run from school? Truancy and inschool suspension. Freeze in front of your boss? You’re ignoring him/being defiant, you get fired.
Maybe this is just psuedopsychological posturing but it’s what makes the most sense when examining my own and many other Amerikans’ behaviors when relating to authority
When I hear a white American speaking, I sit my privileged ass down and LISTEN.
US liberal response to a foreign government shooting their own people: “OMG, why don’t they rise up and revolt against such tyranny?!”
US liberal response to their own government shooting at them: “Hold on now guys, we need to be peaceful and civil with the guys shooting at us, or else they might do something drastic, like shoot at us!”
Something something if Russians and Iranians don’t fight their government then they deserve to get bombed something something
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US liberal response to a foreign government shooting their own people: “OMG, why don’t they rise up and revolt against such tyranny?!”
The tyranny which is often a result of direct or indirect Amerikkkan involvement (the poster he responded to might have been from one of those countries) but no you butt out. This is our problem and I will do nothing about it because I am not a authoritarian tankie. I am going to brunch anyway in a frog costume as a form of rebellion.
I have to give it to the bourgeois in Amerikkka for making such a powerful propaganda department and creating conditions which turn people into whatever this is.
I have to give it to the bourgeois in Amerikkka for making such a powerful propaganda department and creating conditions which turn people into whatever this is.
There is something morbidly fascinating about it all, it’s the most complex and organised propaganda apparatus in history, so well organised that the people spreading this stuff don’t even consider anything they say to be propaganda.
36·2 days agoAmerican politics and activism is not the same as everywhere else in the world.
AmeriKKKan exceptionalism.
We do not get to physically fight back, because we will be killed or disappeared.
As if that’s different from every other fucking place.
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They have absolutely no respect for any other culture or country’s boundaries so why the fuck should anyone else “butt out” (respectfully lmao) of theirs? Fuck off.
You tell 'em!
Unless someone assembles an army, we cannot fight back
President Xi, my people yearn for freedom
American exceptionalism but the exceptionalism is cowardice apparently.
“Opps, nothing but cowards”
The US uses my country as a glorified military base, so I’ll say whatever the fuck I want.
That outburst is going to cost you another 3 barely functional submarine purchases.
I’m about to eat a nuclear sub I swear to ya mutha
Yeah, Everywhere revolutions just famously worked when a bunch of people marched for a couple of weeks. No one got shot or imprisoned for decades, no one was sent to siberia to starve. no massed crowds were fired upon on any famous steps.
It worked out well for these guys:
(But I think they may have also done some other stuff too)
it’s called a long march because they marched for a long time
if we protest against them shooting at us, they might shoot at us 😱
The average Amerikkkan is such a pathetic sack of shit it’s genuinely incredibly impressive how the system was able to completely lobotomize and neuter such an immense portion of the population that they will continue to “but both sides bad” and lick government boots that are actively beating and murdering them and their neighbors.
Kill squad gets sent to city, “we cant become violent or they will send kill squads!”
What does this clown think will happen anyway? One to many snowballs get thrown and Trump sends the marines to indiscriminately murder civilians?
They also likely can’t imagine actually killing any targets that remove some of the danger against themselves, but always imagine violence as like random killings and destruction because that’s how American media always depicts anti-government/worker resistance to things, especially during protests.
The idea that you could remove an ICE agent and be safer as a result, i.e. what happened to Good, doesn’t cross their mind.
Kill squad gets sent to city, “we cant become violent or they will send kill squads!”
There’s a simple answer. “Sure they killed someone in cold blood, but they won’t kill me”, so they oppose escalation. The situation in the US is deteriorating, but the subjective and objective reasons for revolution and what that implies to be appealing aren’t present… yet.
Right. As long as people can stay home and be “safe” with their treats why would they stick their necks out? We’re a deeply individual society so there’s no sense of community or solidarity with those other people.
Also, people need there to be order and things to calm down so they can get back to work and make money for their chicken tendies
American libs are so fucking chauvinistic even when they’re trying to throw a pity party for themselves jfc
Like… they’re already killing you regardless of whether or not you “fight back”, sometimes for literally no reason you dipshit. Or is this lib trying to signal that they 100% buy into the “Renee was trying to run over/threaten ICE with her car” narratives?
Unless someone assembles an army
Even if someone was actually doing that, this lib would absolutely decry it as “far-left terrorism”
If someone assembles and army, this dude sure ah hell ain’t joining, his life is too precious.
Fighting and dying is for the poors and the browns.
Unless someone assembles an army
Fair enough! So you’re actively pushing for a people’s militia, or other organised armed resistance, right?
American politics and activism is not the same as everywhere else in the world.
So deluded. Just showing their whole ignorant ass. Their barbaric mobs, our sober democracy.
