Apparently it’s “virtue signaling” and “language policing” to not want to use language that actively oppresses people. Very cool.
We are so far away from any meaningful change it hurts.
My favorite: 
Oh, I mistook people being anti-ICE for being anti-fascist… turns out they’re only anti-ICE 
I guess being anti-ICE and being a Good Person are mutually exclusive of one another. My bad, y’all.
A lib seeing a black ICE agent internally debating if its socially acceptable to call them the gamer word
Fascists: Summarily executes their political opponents in the streets.
Liberals: The situation is dire! We might even have to relax some of our tone policing! (PS: Can I say the slurs now?)
I’m hard pressed to think of a country where language-policing was an effective tool in restoring democracy.
And I’m hard pressed to think of a time when a comment on Redd*t was an effective tool in restoring democracy, yet you’re commenting anyway.
This is such a reductionist take. No, making rules against oppressive language isn’t going to “restore democracy”. Did anyone claim that it was ever going to? This betrays the lack of political development of the commenter.
I know this is nitpicking but I really hate this haughty Redd*tor posturing. They could have just said “This won’t fix the problem” but instead it has to be wrapped up in all this smug wording - “Well, according to my extensive study of history it appears to me that in no case which I’m able to identify would banning me from saying the N-word would have ever advanced the interests of democracy 😏”
If banning those words doesn’t matter for restoring your precious bourgeois, settler-colonial democracy then it doesn’t matter if you don’t use those words either.
For redditors for a long time the only slippery slope on the path to facism is their ability to use slurs, not the unchecked police violence, flawed two party that are glorified errand boys for the bourgeois, having more military bases around the world than the roman empire etc. So when they have reductionist takes like this is no surprise. There is no organizing on there, no nada. Just their neurotic behavior
restoring democracy
If your fucking Yankee empire of corpses doesn’t have “democracy” now then it never had it. You are no different from the fascists you claim to oppose.They just want life to return to 2014 again.
A liberals understanding The Paradox of Tolerance is that we should have the moral right to be cruel little shits to the political out-group because they do it too.
It proves they never really cared about actually tolerating minorities and correcting their viewpoints. It’s something they shouldn’t do but now that they can they’ll relish it like a white supremacist reading Huck Finn aloud in a black church.
Libs absolutely love any excuse to “be able” to say slurs.
I was playing Helldivers 2 not that long ago and someone on my team referred to an Automaton as a “Wireback” and how it “should go back to its own planet”
I emptied all six rounds from my revolver into him, called him a pathetic racist in chat and then kicked him from the game
I took a break for a while because you couldn’t go more than a mission or two without someone saying “Clanker” with the same vitriol as someone saying the actual N-word
We say chud and hog with vitriol too though? I don’t think saying things meanly is the problem.
First I’ll paste a comment I left about this recently:
Yes, but the people who are using it that way are doing it as a cover so they can just cosplay lynching a black person. I’m not saying you are doing that at all, but that is the crowed you end up associating with as a result of using it. There’s a reason it sounds like the N-word with a hard R. I’ve seen enough shit on the internet surrounding the term to know that they are just black-coding all the “robots” in all these conversations/videos. Taylor Lorenz, for as much of a liberal she can be at times, has good coverage of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBtbkOfUlIo. Another term that had been floating around was “wireback” which is just replacing “wet” with “wire” in the traditional slur against Mexicans.
Second, Chud and Hog do not root themselves in an actual slur in the same way that “clanker” and “wireback” do, which I always thought was pretty obvious.
Wireback I get, but “clanker” comes from a Star Wars cartoon and is closer to “clunker” which is old timey slang for a faulty machine. The only thing it has in common with the N word is an -er suffix, which is ubiquitous.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
A person can change their behavior and beliefs and stop being a chud or hog. Using a word as a slur that refers to an unchangeable part of a person or entity is the problem.
Clanker is just an excuse to get away with saying something close enough to the N-word for these people
It’s already gross enough when they say shit like that and then titter away like a school kid who got away with saying dookie
It’s worse when you can tell they’re using it as an actual slur
It’s worse when you can tell they’re using it as an actual slur
TBH they give the whole game away when they say “Wireback”. “Clanker” had the excuse of being from Star Wars, there’s no way to get to “Wireback” without deriving directly from an actual racial slur and no reason to do so other than to tear the mask off for all your fellow chuds while keeping only barely a small layer of “plausible” deniability for the civility lib audience.
For real
And it’s so fucking exhausting being like “Hey, i’m Hispanic, please don’t talk like that, it’s really messed up” only to get a barrage of “Chill out man, we’re only pretending”
And it’s like, out of everything you could use your imagination to do, you chose to be a racist?
out of everything you could use your imagination to do, you chose to be a racist?
Average fantasy author creating their races
“Pretend Racist”
“Real Racist”
“Chill out man, we’re only pretending”
Only pretending to be a member of the KKK, LMAO.
OP: “Using these words against ICE agents might unintentionally hurt innocent people reading this so be more careful with your words.”
Every single commenter: “I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE FEELINGS OF ICE AGENTS!!”
Let’s focus on that and then we can shift on the next most important thing.
Like lets direct our anger we feel towards our enemies in a productive way, instead of throwing slurs at them online? What’s a slur gonna do to stop ICE? Why does anyone need the ability to mock them? You can call them out for their actions which are vile enough already, their actions have already dehumanized themselves. We don’t need slurs to manufacture consent.
I think their idea of “good” examples of insults shows how they have internalised the worldview of the fascists as one where the strong must destroy the weak, they just consider themselves to be the strong party and ICE to be the weak ones.
I guess we all post from Langley here?
as someone that is sniveling, weak, tiny, and small…
Giving stuff like small and weak as examples of “good” insults is counterproductive if you’re gonna make posts like this
“They claim to be ubermensch, but are actually untermensch!”
You’re not wrong but I’ve seen pushback in all working class movements globally when trying to do stuff like this.
The working class cares primarily about their immediate personal circumstances, and in many cases they see any other cause as a threat to focusing on the cause that they care about.
I do not think it’s a coincidence that lgbt rights improve in developed countries where working class conditions improve to a degree that they see more issues outside their own direct material circumstances as worth pursuing. While in developing countries things like addressing the immediate need of food and housing and oppression are the forefront of people’s minds and if you try and push lgbt issues on them (among other things) they see it as getting in the way of more important stuff.
The reaction these people are having seems somewhat similar. They are scared about their own immediate potential to be shot in the face by ICE, and that’s literally all they care about. Everything else is viewed as something getting in the way of that one singular issue they care about.
Then again, white USAians never cared about anything but their immediate benefit, not even when they had their treats
Those are some weaksauce insult examples. Come on, channel your inner
Trump? More like dump! Shooting civilians for no reason!? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!
These fucking bougies fucks dump all over us? Well I dump all over them! Cut to fake pooping over a print out of the ICE logo
ICE? More like “I will Crack the skulls of the Enlightened centrists”!
Yeah I see a lot of comments like “huhu look at that short little man. I bet I could kick his ass” or “fatty probably can’t run a mile huhuh”
