Remove if against rules but need to be brought up. Admin of db0 seems to think everyone to the left of the db0 instance is out to kill/murder them. Then for some reason does more massive rants against cowbee.

Idk if should be in different comm but with this and their support of angry quoka user getting worrying

  • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Not to mention that nobody outright says that they’re going to be oppressive. Lenin sounded great in . . . 1917 when he was writing effectively anarchist praxis. We just know that the creation of a new state is going to inevitably end up oppressing and killing those who oppose creating a state.

    This is an excellent bit

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      What is now happening to Lenin’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Leninism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie. All the social-chauvinists are now “Leninists” (don’t laugh!). And more and more frequently German bourgeois scholars, only yesterday specialists in the annihilation of Leninism, are speaking of the “anarchist” Lenin, who, they claim, educated the labor unions which are so splendidly organized for the purpose of waging a predatory war!

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      Wasn’t Lenin in 1917 writing “kill the bastards” as advice in a bunch of his missives? I’ve never been big on the russian civil war, but I remember something about Lenin making Stalin look like a lamb

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        There’s this wonderful old Yiddish anarchist song from Russia where they sing joyfully about putting the tsar and his mother in a box [timestamped]

        It wasn’t just Lenin calling to kill the bastards - even the anarchists were doing it back then.

        Shit, I don’t say this very often but I swear that if some of today’s western anarchists met a figure like Durruti or Malatesta and listened to what they advocated for, they’d denounce them for being tankies.

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          Shit, I don’t say this very often but I swear that if some of today’s western anarchists met a figure like Durruti or Malatesta and listened to what they advocated for, they’d denounce them for being tankies.

          I think a lot of modern western leftists just flat out can’t imagine the horrible conditions people had to endure back then, I’m not trying to call people “soft” or whatever, or advocate for similar positions, but I really struggle to understand the pre-revolutionary conditions in places like China or Russia. It’s beyond my scope of truly understanding how awful it must have been. And I’ve gone out of my way to learn about what things were like back then, listened to people telling stories passed down by their grandparents, because the conditions of these places just flat out aren’t taught in the west whatsoever, just a vague “things were bad and people were unhappy.”

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        While the Russian Civil War did start in 1917, I think they mean prior to the October Revolution, but you can still just read State and Revolution and other texts and see that Lenin was very much opposed to anarchist ideas and argued for the necessity of the use of state violence on the part of the dictatorship of the proletariat.