On his own show too lmao. Even rogan called out ICE harder
They threaten anti-nuke protestors like hippie nuns with terrorism for blocking roadways. They threaten animal welfare activists with eco terrorism if they meaningfully obstruct the meat industry.
ICE is out there murdering and abducting and probably doing a whole host of shit we won’t ever fully know. Calling that terrorism is unfair though. Libs come get your loser.
What the fuck is the point of this? I know a lot of libs and none of them like Ben Shapiro. People are tired of civility politics and this “reaching across the aisle” bullshit. Folding like a lawn chair in front of this smarmy asshole is only gonna get your base mad at you.
It’s honestly the same Democratic political and campaign consultants that keep advocating for bashing the left. They’ve helped on every single Democratic campaign since the 90s and the dynamics of American politics are such that you can be dead wrong and still win half of the time because of swing voters
That part of the base has already been written off as voting for the other Biden
Controlled opposition moment.
My man had a direct line of sight at Ben Shapiro’s neck but there are still no holes in it.
I mean, terrorists usually stand for something and use terror as a means to achieve that goal. ICE treats the terror as the goal, not the way to get to it. Somehow I don’t think this was a clever dig at ICE implying they are worse than terrorists though.
The whole podcast is 2 hours long and it is pretty clear that the purpose is that he’s trying to signal civility politics. Ben Shapiro says that both sides are on wrong in the Renee Good shooting, that he thinks Trump is avoiding responsibility but also he likes ICE. Gavin Newsom says he agrees.
They are disagreeing about sanctuary cities. Gavin says he supports them and Ben opposes. Cops used to support sanctuary cities because undocumented migrants are more willing to report crimes. Racists hate sanctuary cities because they don’t want any migrants.
At 27 minutes in the podcast, Gavin Newsom says that Kamala Harris ran on abolishing ICE in 2024 and that he didn’t support Kamala for that reason. No the fuck she didn’t say abolish ICE. Kamala put out multiple campaign ads saying that she would fund ICE more than Trump would.
I might post more notes later. Ben Shapiro started out the podcast by talking about how he was bullied in school. Clearly not enough.
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The purpose was never genuine conversation, it was to make him look like a cuck and they succeeded. Now everyone knows how obviously spineless he is.
Genuinely amazing how they keep falling for stuff like this, though. I don’t mean being ghouls, that’s just their nature as democrats, I mean letting themselves be humiliated like this by their so-called “enemies”. I find both parties despicable, but only the Republicans generally seem like they’re actually trying to “win”.
Imagine talking to Ben Shapiro and letting him steer the conversation like this
Imagine being 6’3" and letting him do this instead of grabbing him by ankles and spinning him in a circle until he blacked out!
They probably pre-gamed the interview by doing just that.
“Ehrm, it actually increases blood flow to my brain so I write into my contract that before any debate my opponent must give me uppie-spinnies.”
If you end up “debating” Ben Shapiro and you aren’t just doing this the whole time, you’re a loser
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Can’t even pretend to be an opposition party.
I watched the 2 hour podcast and tried to make a summary. The longer I watched, the worse it got. The one good thing is that Gavin seemingly supports transgender people. Besides that, fuck Gavin Newsom.
Ben spends a whole lot of time saying that Democrats shouldn’t take Trump’s threats seriously. An example being that Trump keeps saying he wants to run for a third term. He says like that Democrats are overreacting and that they should be happy to have the American system. That Democrats should be happy to lose because they still have opportunities. Is Ben getting notes from Chuck Schumer?
Ben talks about his previous employee Candace Owens blaming Israel for murdering Charlie Kirk and implies that she is wrong for using the tragedy to push a political agenda. Then Ben blames Charlie Kirk’s death on transgender people.
Ben talks about Tucker Carlson for the same reason as Candace Owens. Ben says that Tucker is too much of a populist. Ben says that Tucker Carlson has “Noam Chomsky foreign policy”. Gavin interrupts him to say that he has also read Chomsky.
Ben yaps a bunch about how young people today have more opportunity than any previous generation ever and that they need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Gavin just nods along.
They talk shit about Zohran Mamdani supporting ‘collectivism’.
Gavin says that he agrees with Ben Shapiro on a “need to shut the southern border”,
Ben says Trump hasn’t started any wars. Gavin interjects that he did at least 6 major military operations. Ben says it doesn’t count because troops weren’t on the ground. Ben says he loves what Trump is doing in Gaza. Gavin says what about Greenland. Ben laughs.
Ben and Gavin both agree on using the terms “crony capitalism” and “state capitalism”.
Ben says that Zohran Mamdani is more antisemitic than Nick Fuentes because Mamdani “refused to say that Hamas is a terrorist group”. Gavin interrupts to say that “Hamas is a terrorist group and they should be denounced” and “I went to Israel a few weeks after October 7 and I met with Bibi”.
Ben says that “Israel did not commit a genocide in Gaza” and that democrats are trying to say that they did. Gavin agrees. Gavin tries to be ambiguous and says that he can’t say that Israel committed a genocide because he doesn’t know the “legal definition” of genocide.
Gavin tries to do like a soft Zionism position by saying that he doesn’t like Netanyahu but he does like Israel… This is a common strategy for Democrats, they pretend to hate a designated villain but let the villain operate freely.
Gavin says “I like bringing the hostages home”. Gavin says “I’m crystal clear about denouncing Hamas. I’m crystal clear on my love for Israel. I’m crystal clear about my condemnation for Bibi.”
Ben says that Netanyahu is not right wing enough.
Ben says Iran is killing 10s of thousands of people in the streets. Gavin says that it was good when Trump bombed Iran. Gavin says he’s not afraid to say this and that he’s a free thinker.
Ben asks for Gavin to condemn transgender people. Gavin asks whether Ben would condemn Trump’s policies in support of gender affirming care during his first term. Ben boasts that his company has had a “no preferred pronouns policy” since 2015 and that his employees may only use “biological pronouns”. Gavin says that his position on transgender people is that it should be a decision between doctor and patient.
Near the end of the interview, Ben explains that his worldview (written in his book) is that there are 2 types of people, people who build vs people who destroy. Ben has previously said that he believes that Palestinians and Arabs are “people who destroy” and that Israelis are “people who build”. Then Ben says that people who try to do populism are “people who destroy”. If you try to make society more equitable, Ben says you are “people who destroy”. If you never try to change society, Ben says you are “people who build”.
Ben says that corporate landlords are an example of “people who build”. He says that corporate landlords offer better living conditions and rates than “mom and pop landlords”. He gives Charlotte NC as the example.
Gavin says that he wishes he had time to ask Ben about Xi.
In the last few minutes of the show, Gavins asks about future elections. Ben says that he thinks that Republicans will struggle in the midterms because Trump is not on the ballot. Ben says that Marco Rubio will be more likely to be the Republican President in 2028 than JD Vance.
Thanks for jumping on that grenade. They’re all the fucking same. You can’t even do the liberal single issue voter thing. He’s trash on so many issues
Yeah I don’t trust a damn thing he says about trans people. I lived under this piece of shit for over a decade. I hope he dies in a really funny way.
“California flags were ordered to fly at half mast this morning after Gavin Newsom was found dead from plumpjacking himself off too hard”
Dunno if I would say he “seemingly supports” trans people. He sure does love to veto bills that would help trans people.
Newsom agreed with the other chud, the one who got extra cooling installed in his neck, that trans women in sports was an ”issue of fairness”.
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God dammit
I think the point isn’t that he folded on his own show, but that there’s a campaign by multiple entities (him, Weiss, etc.) to promote Shapiro’s dying brand because that is basically their only “answer” to Fuentes types. idk if it’s coordinated or just a bunch of different people seeing a bit of the writing on the wall.
It is so funny that they have misread the moment so badly that they think they’ll cow their base with the facts and debate guy, as if facts and argument matter in any way to the people they’re trying to corral.
Facts and arguments don’t actually matter to Shapiro or most Democrats either, so everyone’s on the same page at least.
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Reminder that libs believe this piece of trash is actually somehow resisting fascism
I think they very obviously are using terror to further their political goals, so yeah terrorism. Dudes a right wing spineless bitch. Shapiro of all people is not hard to stand up to.
Terror and murder against civilians, so yes terrorism.
These guys pretend that attacks from their enemies on their active soldiers is terrorism.
And Ben Shapiro’s audience will still think this fucker is woke and will be the end of America. Fuck off.
