I wrote the title myself for clarity. There are 2,000+ there now. There will be ~1,000 more.
Reminds me of freedom of navigation operations. You establish control over territory by normalising your use of force in an area.
ICE is establishing territorial control and dominion over everywhere that allows them to normalise their presence. They’re becoming a special police force without jurisdiction that fundamentally sits above all others. They’re evolving into the same role as the Special Tasks Patrol Police in Ukraine, which was modelled on the Nazi SS.
For comparison, Gestapo at its height in 1944 had around 32000 personnel in entire occupied Europe.
Always feels tough to judge what will be significant as it happens but this is looking like a big deal. Minneapolis is known for being cool after all
I think things are getting to that point but its taking longer because people are directionless. ICE is just swarming all over. With BLM, the police had strongholds that could be targeted. In this case, ICE keeps changing hotels and such. So the options are confronting them in the open or risking hurting innocent workers at some hotel, or the immigrants themselves in the building they’re being kept and flown out of.
There’s the Whipple building where victims are kept before shipment, but I assume that place is a fortress.
the bastille was a fortress too
Yeah, thats what I meant. Nobody is gonna set the Whipple Building on fire like they did the police station since thats where the people are being held.
That and people have convinced themselves that all the actually cool and good stuff that was done during BLM was false flag ops to make them look bad.
the guy who torched that target was definitely a cop, iirc they matched his photo
The videos getting posted to /r/minnesota are wildly unhinged, where the fuck is the state government
The mayor said on a podcast that essentially ICE has more people and bigger guns so he’s not going to push for things like local cops getting involved. A few days ago after the Renee Good murder, Walz told the National Guard to standby in case we’ve got another George Floyd riot on our hands. No mention of doing anything to stop the ICE violence already happening, just a threat if protestors respond in kind. He’s lost any semblence of sauce since his embarrassing VP run, if he even had any to begin with.
If anyone saw the video of the doordash driver that rushed into a woman’s home, she called 911 and local police just told her to turn the woman over.
MN and the democratic party are pretty much absent here
I mean figures Walz would call out the Guard to sic on the protestors given his history
but god damn if there was ever a time to provoke a constitutional crisis, this is it
Things are very bad right now and I think we’re all on our own. But if you go through Minneapolis, there’s signs about the murder, “FUCK ICE” spray painted on every corner, protests at the building where people are being held (which Bovino just personally went to and cracked down on), people you wouldn’t expect starting to talk about getting armed, people surrounding agents if the agent is alone and “unarresting” people like back during BLM. ICE Watches in vulnerable locations, people offering to pick up groceries for others.
The cities are under siege and everyone knows it and everyone is banding together in their own way.
You’re not on your own
Appreciate it. I meant more that no outside organization is doing anything to alleviate the damage. Not the cops (ofc), not the state. Its all people helping people.
Ice would still have a stern fight on their hands if police fought against them. Police have community connections, know the city intimately, are generally better trained than most ICE units, and would have the overwhelming support of the people. If they relaxed enforcement vs. people fighting ICE, Minneapolis forces would vastly outnumber Ice
None of this will happen, of course. Police don’t seem to want to fight Ice, and leadership isn’t looking to make an enemy of Trump. I’m just saying that numbers is a terrible excuse for holding back
They definitely don’t want to fight them. They’re mostly just annoyed that their presence is making their job busier and more complicated. But the Minnesota Fraternal Order of Police, of which many cops are members, are in full support of ICE actions.
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The pigs are more than happy to watch ICE do what they’ve always wanted to but couldn’t quite get away with.
Standing behind the feds and going “If we don’t see it, it’s not illegal!”
Your Simpson’s references are unmatched, most people probably didn’t even catch that one
rolling over for belly rubs like good little dogs
I think there’s a bit too much ice in this mini-soda.
It’ll get all watery
i can’t taste my freezepeach icetea 
Oh no! Was there a surge in undocumented people in the state or something?! What the fuck are you people fucking talking about?! If you’re all upset about protests, even if they were the violent riots that you’re depending on for the strategy, why the fuck would you deploy immigration officers?
Probably less accountability than the +5 with advantage to accountability saving throws that cops already have
immigration barely has anything to do with it anymore. it’s just Trump’s terror goon squad now.
edited to add: obviously the Good murder didn’t have anything to do with immigration. they picked up a 17 year old kid (citizen, brown of course) at his job at Target, beat the shit out of him, and then dumped him in a Walmart parking lot miles away. their job is to fuck up cities in blue states and that’s it.
They did the same thing to a marine vet, and told her “don’t you guys learn? this is why we killed that lesbian bitch”
With US citizens, there is nothing stopping them from abducting you, beating andremoved you, then dumping you wherever they please.
blatantly illegal arrest of a protester
not going to be surprised if he needs a hospital if/when they let him out
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They did the same thing to a marine vet, and told her “don’t you guys learn? this is why we killed that lesbian bitch”
is this on video?
This is from an interview with the vet. I believe I saw it on breakthrough news
Sorry to keep replying to you, but you’re absolutely right. Its retaliation for showing any sign of resistance. Border Patrol is here too. They grab anyone they feel like, but are absolutely still targeting immigrants in smash and grabs. They try to be in and out as quick as possible and keep going to businesses like Target, Home Depot, etc looking for specific people.
The original justification was “investigating fraud”
There was a time when the SS was just 8 nazi goons meant to stand around at NSDAP meetings.
: “Respect mah authoritah!”Soon there will be 3000 happy hippies with LSD in water guns in Minneapolis. Suddenly, all the ICE agents are seen with their new immigrant friends and petting cats on the sidewalks.
the CIA tried this, turns out giving tons of LSD to violent unstable people actually just makes them even more violent and unstable
I saw the black and white video of them giving a soldier pot. Dude got all happy and giggly. Maybe they need to have a bonfire with weed.
Not sure if I believe this actually. If that was the case, they’d have every soldier on LSD.
Soldiers need to be stable. That’s why they instead are given amphetamines
Stimulants have similar effects and don’t cause added risk of giving deranged lunatics with guns (as many) crazy hallucinations
I now see that being the oppressor isn’t groovy. It’s a drag, man. Where’s that black and white kitty? She’s cute and I want a cuddle.
Austin, we won.
A thousand less agents everywhere else
