Remove if against rules but need to be brought up. Admin of db0 seems to think everyone to the left of the db0 instance is out to kill/murder them. Then for some reason does more massive rants against cowbee.

Idk if should be in different comm but with this and their support of angry quoka user getting worrying

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    idk what db0 is and I couldn’t care to find out, but every time i see it I just think it’s dragon ball related and in my head you ppl are having anime battles between one another.

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        TBH a lot of the instance is less like this than db0 himself. I don’t even think he himself is a cryptofash (except by accident) but he will, from what I’ve seen, protect them based on in-group loyalty which really sucks.

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          To me he lost all plausible deniability as anything but a fascist when he started making up lies about all of us for calling out his fascist buddy.

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            If we could just have on their banner that clearly saying that “the Red Army soldiers should have surrendered to the Nazis, and the fact that they didn’t means the ones who were executed in captivity for being Slavs (or Jews, etc.) weren’t victims of a genocide,” is considered by the admins to be acceptable Discourse that we would oppose merely on a sectarian basis, I feel like it would deflate most of the popular support for db0’s shit takes.

            They’ve made being a “tankie” in some cases synonymous with being correct, seemingly only opposing it to be contrarian and even despite the broad agreement from many ideologies that the above statement is the exclusive domain of a subset of fascists.

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              They’ve made being a “tankie” in some cases synonymous with being correct, seemingly only opposing it to be contrarian and even despite the broad agreement from many ideologies that the above statement is the exclusive domain of a subset of fascists.

              Bingo. Using anarchism as an excuse to support the most fascist and reactionary takes and actions against the soviets (or any communist group) is anti-anarchist and pro-fascist. Truth doesn’t matter for these people, what matters is whatever narrative is a rhetorically effective club.

              That’s not to say that there isn’t legitimate Marxist or anarchist critique against AES states, of course, my point is that it’s clear that a small but extremely vocal portion of users seem to proceed from the goal of discrediting Marxism and use whatever is effective in doing so regardless of validity, rather than a pursuit for correct analysis we can apply to build a better understanding of the past to inform our current practice.

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            Yes, that was the specific incident I was thinking of as well.

            However, the instance as a whole actually has a lot of good people and IMO it’s a benefit to be federated with them. Part of the reason he’s crashing out like this seems to be that the instance is warming up to Hexbear and he doesn’t like that.

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              Agreed, big time. Lot of cool users, but the very non-cool users are getting extra-upset that things have been warming between the two instances.

              Edit: Bingo. db0 sees libs and MLs as equally vile, and is concerned that MLs are seen more positively than libs, fearing that this is pushing anarchists away from dbzer0. The admins are split on this, though, as are the mods, with db0 taking an appeared minority position on the matter.

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          I think the userbase is actually decent, some cool people there too. I think the more vocal bad actors there are getting restless because dbzer0 and Hexbear seem to be on better terms. Just my vibes-based analysis.

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          Although considering their defenses of a certain user

          I thought at first you were referring to the way he claimed the “27 million Soviets deserved to be murdered by the nazis” user was being maliciously misrepresented, but you mention of “angry quoka user” in the post body makes me think maybe not?

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            There are multiple at this point. Quoka isn’t to the level of they deserved to be murdered by the nazis but the defense and boosting is getting there.

            In the reply here I was meaning 27 million user