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Just because liberals voted for the Fascists in 1924, repeatedly praised Fascism in the press, applauded the Fascists for suppressing worker demonstrations, trained dozens of Fascist cadets, elected politicians sympathetic to Fascism, repeatedly overlooked or trivialized Fascist oppression, chanted “Deutschland, Deutschland über alles!” alongside Fascists in German government chambers, suppressed militant antifascists regularly, signed a naval pact with Fascists, extended credit to Fascists, signed military alliances with the Fascists, partitioned Czechoslovakia for the Fascists, tolerated businesses that marketed products (including oil and nickel) to Fascists, became economically critical to the Axis war machine, provided bank accounts for Fascists, bailed out Axis businessmen, held more Axis POWs than Jewish refugees, collaborated with self‐identified fascists, directly incorporated former Axis intelligence into the state, started Operation Paperclip and kept the employés, started Operation Bloodstone, appointed former Axis leaders to high ranks within the NATO, accepted surviving Axis collaborators as party members, endorsed an underground network of neofascists, allow monuments to Axis collaborators, martyrize Axis collaborators, and contribute to neofascism in Ukraine, doesn’t mean that liberalism enables fascism or fascists.
Name one time that liberalism enabled fascism.
Name one time that liberalism enabled fascism.
I was gonna say that time liberals helped former SS make their way to Chile so they could operate state orphanages like concentration camps under Pinochet. But then I realized THERE WAS A DANG REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE who was a conservative which is the total opposite of liberalism. It seems we have been defeated in the marketplace of ideas and have no choice but to abandon gommunism.
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Gonna need a citation for that
the replies to the twitter post are all so painfully bad
Little Hitlers angry at basic historical observations
average twt experience
https://x.com/RockChartrand/status/1993030904328208511 B R O T H E R
"Liberalism doesn’t “enable” fascism. It’s the only thing that prevents it. Fascism is a system where the state has supreme authority over the individual. It demands obedience, central planning, and the sacrifice of personal freedom to a collective ideal of nation, race, or leader. All power flows downward.
Liberalism is the opposite. Classical liberalism is built on the protection of individual rights, limits on state power, private property, free expression, and voluntary association. Fascism requires crushing these things. A society where you can speak, assemble, trade, and criticize authority is one where fascism cannot take root without first destroying the liberal framework.
Fascism only rises when liberalism weakens or collapses. The Weimar Republic didn’t “enable” Hitler. Its institutions were dismantled, censored, intimidated, and bypassed until nothing liberal was left. Fascism requires the elimination of liberal rights as step one.
Communism and fascism are not opposites. They are cousins. Both are forms of collectivist authoritarianism built on the same philosophical core.
Both demand:
• The subordination of the individual to a collective cause • State control over the economy • Suppression of dissent • One-party rule • Propaganda as truth • “Enemies of the people” to justify repression • Central planning of life, work, speech, and association
They differ not in their structure but in their branding. Fascism uses the nation or race. Communism uses the proletariat or “the people.” But both abolish individual rights and treat human beings as instruments for a collective end.
Where liberalism says “Your life is yours,” fascism and communism both say “Your life belongs to us.”
That’s why communists and fascists historically admire each other’s efficiencies and borrow each other’s methods. It’s also why communist revolutions always result in the same things fascism needs: censorship, secret police, one-party rule, centralized power, and the destruction of civil society.
If fascism appears, it’s because liberalism was abandoned, not because it was followed. And it is communism, not liberalism, that shares fascism’s DNA.
What both communists and fascists depend on is nonsensical, baseless, and emotional assertions, because envy, resentment, ignorance, and indifference are their lifeblood."
you can tell just looking at it he used ai lmfao
Despite the link at the top, i read some of that thinking you were authentically saying it and I had to spend literal seconds uncomfortable with the thought that someone like that had been on hb for two years.
Quote bars are free, here have one
Take me
He should have used quote bars, but he does use quotation marks. The main thing is he doesn’t use them properly with the linebreaks.
It’s also why communist revolutions always result in the same things fascism needs: censorship, secret police, one-party rule, centralized power, and the destruction of civil society.
think of all the attempted CIA plots against Cuba or wherever else, and realize that you are not aware of the full number and extent of those attacks. i think the people under that kind of siege know better than we do what’s necessary to defend themselves.
voluntary association
It’s true, “freedom of association” was used to defend a lot of segregation before it was outlawed, and classic “anti-authoritarian” luminary Arendt defended it on that basis
I really wish I could airdrop liberals in an empty world where the only rules are the maintenance of individual rights, private property, free expression and voluntary association.
The state’s only function is the maintenance of said rules, it is above all else and is allowed ultimate authority to do anything necessary, to maintain the above rules.
It would be interesting to see how long before they try to demand for the rules to change.
Fascism is a system where the state has supreme authority over the individual.
With such a reductive definition there would be no significant difference between liberalism and fascism. Imperial America has shown time and again that Black individuality means nothing to the bourgeois state. The Summer of 2020 should have made that abundantly clear.
It demands […] central planning
and the sacrifice of personal freedom to a collective ideal of nation, race, or leader.
Like the U.S. military.
Classical liberalism is built on the protection of individual rights,
If by ‘individual’ you mean ‘White cishet capitalist men’s’, then yes, RockChartrand.
limits on state power,
There has never been such a thing as ‘unlimited state power’.
free expression,
voluntary association.
I remember hearing a statistic that only 10% of the German population registered with the NSDAP. This is another meaningless ‘distinction’.
The Weimar Republic didn’t “enable” Hitler. Its institutions were dismantled, censored, intimidated, and bypassed until nothing liberal was left.
Strange that there were still other political parties when the Italian and German bourgeois states promoted Fascism in 1922 and 1933, respectively. That being said, it is true that the prefascist states had already devastated Italian and German communism, to certain extents.
The subordination of the individual to a collective cause
Individualism continued to exist under Fascism, and every neoliberal will tell you that the (collective) forces that direct the market are more important than what a lone customer or even a lone businessman wants, so this is yet another meaningless ‘distinction’.
State control over the economy
No, but I can see why you would rather overlook the class character of the state, given that it would compromise your generic analysis.
Suppression of dissent
See here again. ‘Freedom of speech’ only exists in fairy tales; it is nothing but an ideal.
One-party rule
Reminder that neoliberals will tell us with a straight face that they would rather have two identical parties ruling as opposed to only one.
Propaganda as truth
Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!
“Enemies of the people” to justify repression
So all liberal régimes that support Zionism are actually illiberal, then. Good to know.
Central planning of life, work, speech, and association
What? What does this even mean?
liberalism says “Your life is yours,”
This may be the bravest lie that I have read all month.
What anticommunists depend on is nonsensical, baseless, and emotional assertions, because envy, resentment, ignorance, and indifference are their lifeblood.
Fixed.
What a cool picture
Goes hard!
