ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]

I’m fine with nuking this thread. It’s not really /c/theory discussion. I am not up on wisconsincom but it’s really just site spam rather than actual theory reading.

Release order is the only order. Publication date is everything. Anything else is just fans being silly.

It’s fantasy.

Not every villain needs to have a complex backstory for why they’re sympathetic and actually human. Great example: the Disney Cruella remake. The character is more fun as a literal human demon who wants to make a dog skin coat. She doesn’t need to be a humanized person.

Obviously when tropes combine (looking at JKR and the goblin bankers) that’s a different thing. But the fact that many of the Demons are ATTRACTIVE is part of why we should recognize them as (if anything) analogs to fascists.

To think through this: is it “problematic” that certain creatures in nature use aesthetically pleasing colors to trap prey? Is this somehow something we should “humanize” rather than recognize the cold calculation of nature at work (and perhaps, as communists/marxists, work to fight against the logic of nature and fascism’s evil cooption of it. After all, don’t we believe that men make history, but not as they please, and thus are beyond mere “nature”).

The key difference between the fash cooption and the reality of the story is that the demons are not human. They’re angler fish/carnivorous plants that use language. This idiot’s take (the OP image) obviously assumes the inhumanity of his subjects and that’s all you have to do to undermine every Frieren bad take. Simply put, the real “analogy” is if you went to go make friends with a starving tiger in the wild. It doesn’t see its actions as good or bad - it’s “beyond” good and evil not because they’re niezschean ubermensch but because they’re simply nonhuman. Now, this doesn’t mean we should kill every nonhuman entity in the world (though cattle ranchers would do so with wolves, evil fucks). We can recognize ecosystems and our role in it. But it’s a fantasy story, and should be taken on its own terms until it gives reason not to (and again, if every demon started looking like a JKR goblin or something, then I would immediately reverse my position).

Yeah it’s really fucked up. I love the mod, after they drop it, is like “(I am a vocal socialist and very far left).” WHERES YOUR SENSE OF HUMANITY TOWARDS THOSE WHO ARE DISABLED/NEUROATYPICAL MFER. Really enrages me. Like, the idea that you shouldn’t apologize and do better about this, that’s fascist thinking rather than leftist.

That’s a from me.

Also, I have a family member with an intellectual disability, so it sticks in my craw when someone tries to defend it as innocent. It’s fine if someone throws it out and then gets corrected (think of the Chapos, they quit using it after all), since for a long time it was “acceptable.” But to try and defend yourself after correction…