I’m trans and I really don’t want to federated with these people if their mods are defending the -tard suffix and they aren’t getting de-modded and banned. I also don’t want to be federated with them if they ban critiquing western chauvinism.

Someone who is an admin and with more of a level head than me RN please talk to their admins about it.

  • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    That’s a yikes from me.

    Also, I have a family member with an intellectual disability, so it sticks in my craw when someone tries to defend it as innocent. It’s fine if someone throws it out and then gets corrected (think of the Chapos, they quit using it after all), since for a long time it was “acceptable.” But to try and defend yourself after correction… lenin-rage

    • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Not just people with intellectual disabilities either, plenty of nuerospicy people and people with mental illnesses are also called the R slur.

      Given how many trans people are autistic(as am I) they really should know better.

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        2 years ago

        Is there any argument to using **tard and *spie in a reclamatory sense? I have a few autistic friends and I have absolutely heard them calling each other such terms.

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          My question here is:

          How are these terms being reclaimed?

          If we looked at the reclamation of the word “queer”, we have a perfect example. Queer used to mean bad, perverted, unacceptable, and too feminine/too masculine for the hegemonic gender norms etc. It still gets used as a slur in this sort of way, although much less frequently.

          Nowadays, queer has been reclaimed as a term that is used as a positive description and it’s used with pride to define individuals by their sexual and/or gender identities and to foster solidarity.

          With that in context, how are these so-called “reclaimers” of the R-slur reclaiming this term?

          When someone like Keffals (🤢🤮) uses the word or a portmanteau of -tard, is she using this term to create solidarity and as a term of pride?

          Or is she using it to regurgitate the current discourse which uses the term to perpetuate stereotypes, as a way to use the term to denigrate and dehumanize, in just the way that the R-slur became a slur in the first place when it was originally taken from medical discourse and brought into mainstream slang usage?

          If it the latter case, and it is in Keffals’ case, then there is no reclamation of the term taking place and the person doing it is misusing the term “reclamation” as a rhetorical shield to hide behind, like the intellectual coward they are, by draping their bigotry in some self-aggrandizing notion of activism while they are simply perpetuating the prevailing hateful discourse of the term’s usage.

          Your friends may be using it differently however and I can’t say because I’m not privy to the context in which they are using those terms, although I’m extremely skeptical about people who do not have intellectual disability using the R-slur and claiming that it’s used in a reclamatory fashion. That’s a bit like myself, being a white person, and having had people use the N-word against me (rarely, but still…) and then deciding that it’s my prerogative to reclaim the term since I’ve been on the receiving end of it being used as a slur against me; it’s not my term to reclaim.

          So I’d need a pretty damn good justification for why a person without intellectual disability is reclaiming the R-slur and tbh I haven’t come across it yet.

      • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        2 years ago

        Yeah it’s really fucked up. I love the mod, after they drop it, is like “(I am a vocal socialist and very far left).” WHERES YOUR SENSE OF HUMANITY TOWARDS THOSE WHO ARE DISABLED/NEUROATYPICAL MFER. Really enrages me. Like, the idea that you shouldn’t apologize and do better about this, that’s fascist thinking rather than leftist.

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          "(I am a vocal socialist and very far left).

          If you say you’re a socialist you don’t need to add “far left” lol. This is, at best, a baby leftist and more likely just a confused reactionary.