Came across this because of the other thread @LemmySlopSkimmer@hexbear.net posted. This user is the lowest Nazi garbage, yet claims to be a leftist with good intentions.
What is the “right” way for Palestinians to resist Israel? How should they fight back? Please, paint a picture for me in a way that shows how they can effectively stop Israel from killing more people, and stealing ever more land, until the Palestinians have been completely wiped out.
Response from goat cw extreme Zionism and imperialism apologia, SV
don’tremoved, don’t carry out terrorism on innocent civilians
The right way was using the internet and global attention, which Palestine was doing, raising awareness of how they are suffering and gaining sympathy for it. They should’ve adopted more Western ideals, or maybe liberalism, encourage foreigners to come and stay. The West Bank and Gaza near Rafah were also doing decently well in terms of growth, labelling itself as a trendy tourist destination.
Unfortunately, Hamas decided thatremoved women and killing innocent civilians was a better method of resistance, even going so far as to film themselves carrying out the massacre and taking hostages – Which incurred the Israeli military and ended up with Gaza being turned to rubble. Sure, people are much more aware of Palestine now, but only the most radical of “progressives” think Israel can be defeated and that Palestine can do no wrong. These people are vocal minorities and hold no power.
The whole relationship between Israel and the US isn’t as buddy-buddy as people think it is. Israel previously attacked US forces and regularly threatens US personnel. No clue what goes on behind the scenes, but clearly Israel has something major on the US, or the US sees Israel as a base for Middle-East operations and considers the chaos that comes with it as a necessary sacrifice. Or maybe it’s both, or maybe it’s neither.
Wow, don’t do the thing they didn’t do, but Israel accused them of? That Israel refuses any kind of external investigation on? That Israel refuses to name names, except like one woman that said Hamas removedd me with their eyes"?
What, like Israel does? Like Israel literally did when they killed their own innocent civilians during October 7th and covered it up poorly? Hamas doesn’t have the tech to make the highway of death that was found at the music festival. Israeli’s admitted to massacring their own innocent civilians on mainstream Hebrew media (but didn’t generally publish English versions of lol).
It sounds like Hamas was mostly doing what he wanted. And that it was really Israel doing all the things he doesn’t like.
And when they did that, like the massive peaceful march, they got shot and killed. Western sympathy has, so far, accomplished literally nothing. Even Western aid doesn’t matter too much, since Israel has restricted the input of aid. Maybe BDS has done something, but Ansar Allah’s “boycott” has done way, way more. Can BDS point to any company they’ve bankrupted, or forced out of Israel? I don’t really think so.
So they can die too? Like Rachel Corrie, who’s actions were completely non-violent? Like, Palestinians have done exactly the things he mentions, and it failed 100% of the time.
Like what has happened with the Palestinian Authority, and the West Bank? That hasn’t gone well for them at all, Israel basically controls them, actual Palestinians have been ethnically cleansed into a very small amount of Palestinian controlled cities. The Hamas-run Gaza Strip at least has Palestinian control of a long contiguous area, even over the course of Israel’s invasion real Palestinians had a lot of control.
If you look at the political map of the West Bank, you’ll see that Israel controls basically everywhere. It’s growth has barely benefited the Palestinians that live there, the Israeli settlers are a dominant force. The people living in the West Bank are at best under apartheid, and so they have a right to violence there too. Not being completely genocided doesn’t mean they are doing good, and violence is probably the only solution to their miserable situation. Ethnic cleansing is still regularly happening, and no amount of liberalism, collaboration, or appealing to the West has stopped it.
And the US literally doesn’t care, and basically covered it up, and still covers for Israel.