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        It’s always wild to see. The fascists are literally willing to storm the capitol if some neolib gets voted in. The liberals and leftists are all like “WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT US TO DO?!”

        I expect you to do at least as much as the fascists do.

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                Like at least one fascist died during the insurrection. So idk what the fuck you’re talking about.

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                Going to American federal prison for four years isn’t real consequences to you? Do you hear yourself? Like tell yourself whatever you want to try and excuse yourself from any blame from your inaction but don’t expect the people your country invades to buy that bullshit or think of you any less negatively.

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                  4 years is nothing. I had a roommate that did 17 for robbing banks. 4 years is barely a slap on the wrist for a supposed insurrection and if you dont think you could handle 4 years in the slammer you arent ready for revolution

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                    If the fascists are willing to do it and you aren’t you’ve already lost. See you when you get conscripted and you’re in my country getting shot at in -25 celsius.

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            And lucky us now we have a chance of having to go to war with them. I’ll be going down shooting. But I don’t hold any wild beliefs that we will be able to win any war against the states.

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              You will win, just like Vietnam, with disproportionate losses.

              Even in Afghanistan, there were instances where they had 17 US special forces killed to 1 Taliban, so they bombed some nearby village to kill 15 people to balance out the K/D ratio.

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                Thats fucked.

                I am not sure how it will go with us though. Especially in my province. Theres a lot of MAGA morons here that would betray us in a second. That was very much NOT the case in Vietnam.

                We also have drone warfare the US has been throwing into the mix lately. They did not have that in Vietnam.

                They had a Ho Chi Mihn, who is possibly the greatest general mastermind of the last century. We do not.

                They had ideal land conditions for guerrilla warfare. Most of Canada does not.

                BUT

                It does get fucking cold here and Americans are nothing if not weak and cowardly. And who knows, maybe their military will have enough dissent in the ranks that fighting a war against a white christian english speaking nation will make some of them rebel. But I mean the Vietnam war was unpopular and most people against it just dodged the draft or did peaceful protests (with some radical exceptions.) Idk I have zero faith in American liberals anymore though.

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                  Wait…you’re Canadian? Motherfucker we are part of the imperial core! Canada as it stands currently isnt gonna do fuck all about American imperialism because its how we get our cheap shit. We wont have Guerilla armies like the Vietnamese cause we are essentially Americans not cause of the teritory which is btw fantastic for it if you know where you live well. Thats the point of guerilla warfare. There isnt gonna be Canadian guerilla warfare happening unless its maybe native driven Maoism and that’s the best case scenario there. We arent part of the resistance we are part of the problem and should act as such. The fucking arrogance

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                    If you think that Canada’s imperialist impact is at all comparative to that of the US then you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not GOOD, but being a part of it is not going to protect us from being invaded and our government and global impacts being changed to something much worse. I do not understand what you’re not getting about this man.

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                  Meet your local indigenous groups. Make friends, be curious about their culture, express sympathy and passion for what they’ve been put through.

                  Meet your local orgs. Make connections there too.

                  Get a gun license. Legally get a gun. For hunting moose or something. You can change your mind about sport hunting after you get it. It’s a free country after all.

                  Read theory; share theory. Ho Chi Mihn didn’t come out of the womb as a mastermind. He was literate. He read strategy.

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                    I’ve already done all these things. I often encourage people to do the same. I doubt it will be enough though.

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          I can give you some ideas of what people can do. None of them require violence since that’s out of the question for libs, but there’s plenty of stuff that could have been done like community building through mutual-aid methods, instead of distracting themselves from the misery of the world through escapism and capitalist consumption they create their own healthy entertainment, their own fun, but it’s a lot easier to just get the kick from buying some shit off of a big brand or donating to charity if you’re more altruistic, they’ve even combined both.

          It won’t happen though I’ll just get called a party pooper, the mom has arrived to tell everyone “We have McDonalds at home!!” also my demands are too unrealistic etc. etc.

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        Seriously. Like the people in my country seem bad for it, and then I see shit like the do-nothing No Kings protests and I’m like “JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DO SOMETHING FOR FUCKS SAKE WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE”

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      Went over to liberal gun owners. After Jan 6th they were acting all tough and now that the chips are down? Being total libs.

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      Fuck South Park and all, but Eric Cartman needs to be used to mock CHUDs more. He literally is Republican Brian Griffin.

      Every time chuds say shit like this or talk about how some ethnic minority needs to be oppressed further, just mockingly say in a southern accent “Respect Mah authoritah!”

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        Off set Eric is actually a really good guy and donates a lot of the money he gets from the show to good causes. Butters on the other hand has gone way off the deep end although he keeps it professional on set for the paycheck. He is like…weirdly obsessed with JK Riwling despite never having read a Harry Potter book. I used to work craft services for South Park way back snd the buddy I hooked up with the job after has been saying the actors have gotten to be top much in general aside from Cartman who from all ive heard has stayed very humble despite his successes

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          The creators are right wing libertarians who have historically had some absolute wank takes, like denying climate change or that second hand smoking kills.

          I actually think it’s kind of funny when they talk about anything but politics, but that’s all the show has been for over a decade now.

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            The early esrly early days. Like pre 2000, it was basically of cumtown was animated and while i haven’t watched in over a decade, their silly stuff eas pretty funny.

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            I don’t know if I’d call them right wing libertarians, but the climate denial stuff is one thing they regret, and they did do an episode later where they had the kids apologizing to al gore because he ended up being right about manbearpig, so they did walk that back at least. Idk if you can fault someone for being wrong, admitting it, and TRYING to fix it as good as you can when you’re making an animated comedy about dick jokes.

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                Really? Last time I looked I couldn’t find anything solid about their political beliefs.

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                  https://reason.com/2006/12/05/south-park-libertarians-2/

                  Reason: Each of you at various points have called yourself libertarian. Is that an apt description?

                  Parker: People started throwing that word around to describe us right around the second or third season. They would sit us down and go, “So are you libertarian?” And I would always say, “I don’t know, am I? You’ve seen my stuff.”

                  I still don’t really know the answer to that question. I think I am, though.

                  Stone: I think it is an apt description for me personally, and that has probably seeped into the show. But we never set out to do a libertarian show.


                  “We (libertarians) find just as many things to rip on the left as we do on the right. People on the far-left and the far-right are the same exact person to us.” ― Trey Parker

                  https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7472645-we-libertarians-find-just-as-many-things-to-rip-on

                  Hopefully I don’t need to explain what side ‘both sidesism’ favours?(Right: let’s kill a million of them, left: we shouldn’t kill any, enlightened both sider: you’re both so extreme let’s compromise and kill only 500,000)

                  And even if they say their show isn’t ideological(Media almost always reflects the beliefs and biases of its creators to some extent even if unconsciously) the show has been doing both the sort of both-sidesism right-libertarians often lean into in it since at least the Iraq war era(I’m a little bit country, I’m a little bit rock and roll)

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                    Yeah, thats a garbage ass take and very hollywood bullshitty, especially from two guys who claim to be above that.

                    I still like south park though.

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                Also made several episodes mocking trans people, said that hate crime laws were stupid (using a black character as a mouthpiece), said that the boy scouts should be allowed to exclude gay people if they want to (using a gay character as a mouthpiece), and probably more I’m forgetting