The DM was a DM asking us to change our no tankies policy and remove the fuck tankies banner as it was apparently upsetting hexbear users. Apparently tankies view the word tankie as a form of slur. The admin wants us to ally as a form of “left solidarity”

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Anti-communism is an open door to fascism. Vulgar anti-communism IS fascism.

        The Soviet Union and The People’s Republic of China are #1 and #2 for the greatest reductions in poverty and improvements to living standards in human history.

        • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.social
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          I’m a socialist you fucking loser. Shut the fuck up and think before assuming I’m a fascist for disagreeing with you.

          The Soviet Union and The People’s Republic of China are #1 and #2 for the greatest reductions in poverty and improvements to living standards in human history.

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Did I say you were a fascist? I said that anti-communism leaves the door open to fascists. And I said that ideologically vulgar anti-communism is the underpinning of fascism. These are both true. If you make your community about anti-communism, fascists will come. And fascism gains power when the capitalist class is in crisis and chooses a less profitable closed society that keeps the left in check rather than see their power realistically challenged.

            You can laugh all you want at easily researched facts but they’re still true. China. I’ll edit when I find one for the USSR that isn’t a lecture or a book, but in the meantime reflect on how they went from feudal farmers to the first people in space within a generation yuri Oh. And they did it without the stolen wealth of entire continents in the southern hemisphere.

              • Flaps [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                You don’t know shit about my political opinions

                Neither do you it seems. I’m going to assume a couple of things here, correct me if I’m wrong.

                • You live in a western country
                • you’re no older than 25
                • you’ve never read any theory. No Engels, no Marx, no Lenin, no Luxembourg, nothing.
                • you spend a lot of time watching streamers. probably v*ush, which is the only one I’ve heard of so far and god do I wish I didn’t.
                • your political and ideological views are pretty much a direct representation of the views of said streamers.
                • anything to the left of you, you consider ‘wrongthink’, and attempt to shut down your own learning process by calling everyone who says things you don’t like a tankie.
                • you don’t like tankies because they are ‘authoritarian’ but refuse to learn what the question of authority actually entails. I’ll link Engels’ ‘On authority’ so you can read that and see where we’re coming from (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm). There are also audiobooks because I’m assuming you won’t read this either.
                • you can’t spell ‘bourgeoisie’ without looking it up on the internet.
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                  • You believe that communists stabbed Makhnovia in the back

                  • You believe that Makhnovia was an example of anarchist principals put into practice

                  • You have no idea that the Makhnovists had a secret police, that they engaged in the summary execution of political rivals, and that committed genocidal acts against German settlers and especially Mennonites in Ukraine

                  • You believe that communists stabbed the Spanish Republic in the back

                  • You believe that major parts of the Spanish Republic are an example of anarchism put into practice

                  • You have no idea that the Spanish Republic had forced labour camps, extreme levels of control over labourers and the movement and spending habits of the people, zero desire to lose their colonial holdings over the part of Morocco that was their colony because they aspired to colonise more of Africa and that they rejected overtures from the Moroccan people who sued for independence with very favourable conditions for the Spanish Republic, and all the apparatuses of state that you would expect from a typical government

                  • You are unable to provide a functional definition of fascism without looking it up

              • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                You’re an anti-communist clown that would gladly collaborate with fascists

                In fact, you’re actively hoping for an opportunity to do so, just so you could oWn tHe tAnKiEs

                Eat shit

            • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.social
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              At no point have I defended ableism or transphobia. In fact, as a trans woman with mental disabilities, I’m actually offended that you’re trying to use my struggles to try and smear anyone who disagrees with you. Especially considering you’re advocating for regimes that were/are terrible to queer people and/or disabled people.

              • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]@hexbear.net
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                Ok but the context is that your blahaj’s mod team is really pathetic, they let disgusting transphobic chasers make dehumanizing comments without repercussions, let instances of ableist language go unpunished (one of the mods apparently is an ableist piece of shit), and are fine with racist white supremacist comments. This creates a really awful environment for the userbase, I’m sure you’d agree.

                In response to this, you bascially silence the criticism (“Shut up tankie”) because “muh tankies” are the ones who are pointing this out.

                In effect, such a statement is apologia for the mod team’s allowance of bigotry (ableism, racism and transphobia) using whataboutery.

                I acknowledge the awful struggles that trans people have to go through in this shithole capitalist world, and thus see it as imperative that bigotry is not tolerated so that at least there is some relief from such barbarism in the cyber realm.

                Especially considering you’re advocating for regimes that were/are terrible to queer people and/or disabled people.

                Sorry thats wrong, I hate NATO m8.

                  • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]@hexbear.net
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                    ok but you can look at the ableism, racism, and transphobic comments on this instance and come to this conclusion as well without our input, many users of blahaj.zone aren’t happy with their mod team’s bigotry apologia too

                    also please dont call me a genocide denier, I hate NATO and dont support its existence