The DM was a DM asking us to change our no tankies policy and remove the fuck tankies banner as it was apparently upsetting hexbear users. Apparently tankies view the word tankie as a form of slur. The admin wants us to ally as a form of “left solidarity”

  • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.socialEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’m a socialist you fucking loser. Shut the fuck up and think before assuming I’m a fascist for disagreeing with you.

    The Soviet Union and The People’s Republic of China are #1 and #2 for the greatest reductions in poverty and improvements to living standards in human history.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Did I say you were a fascist? I said that anti-communism leaves the door open to fascists. And I said that ideologically vulgar anti-communism is the underpinning of fascism. These are both true. If you make your community about anti-communism, fascists will come. And fascism gains power when the capitalist class is in crisis and chooses a less profitable closed society that keeps the left in check rather than see their power realistically challenged.

      You can laugh all you want at easily researched facts but they’re still true. China. I’ll edit when I find one for the USSR that isn’t a lecture or a book, but in the meantime reflect on how they went from feudal farmers to the first people in space within a generation yuri Oh. And they did it without the stolen wealth of entire continents in the southern hemisphere.

          • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.socialEnglish
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            2 years ago

            He would actually put me in a gulag for being queer, an anarchist, and an Esperantist; but if historical revisionism is what helps you sleep at night, you do you.

            • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.net
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              2 years ago

              Maybe anarchists shouldn’t have murdered Bolsheviks and attempted to enact terror plots against the Soviet Union and they wouldn’t have gotten liquidated by the USSR?

              Just sayin’

              • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.socialEnglish
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                2 years ago

                It’s funny how you use the word “murder” to describe the anarchists’ killing and then switch to a euphemism (“liquidate”) the second you talk about the USSR’s killing.

                Shows how completely brainwashed you are.

                • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.net
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                  2 years ago

                  Liquidate doesn’t refer to murder though. Liquidation means to dissolve or disband political organisations, which is what I was referring to.

                  If you think that I’m euphemising the fact that the Red Army destroyed the Black Army then your implicit bias is showing because they were at war with one another. Murder isn’t something that is applied to enemy armies which have engaged one another in war. I’m not complaining about the Black Army killing Bolsheviks in war. That’s what happens.

                  I’m talking about literal extrajudicial murders of Bolsheviks by the Makhnovist secret police.

                  Edit:

                  I forgot that I’m talking to an anarchist.

                  Sources: Nestor Makhno in the Russian Civil War by Malet, pp. 51-52, 103-104, and 129. Before you say it, here’s Malet in his own words in the preface:

                  It will be clear from the book that the author has some sympathy with Makhno and his ideals, but he trusts that this has not led to gross distortion or untruth.

                  Kontrrazvedka: The Story of the Makhnovist Intelligence Service by Azarov, pp 32-33 but there’s plenty more in there too. Before you say it about him, too:

                  Azarov was active in the Social-Democratic Party of Ukraine but left that party when its anarchist fractions were expelled. In 1999 Azarov was one of the founders of the political party “Union of Anarchists of Ukraine” (SAU). At the founding congress Azarov was elected chair of the the chief executive organ of the SAU.

        • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          2 years ago

          You’re an anti-communist clown that would gladly collaborate with fascists

          In fact, you’re actively hoping for an opportunity to do so, just so you could oWn tHe tAnKiEs

          Eat shit

            • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              2 years ago

              Let me rephrase that in a way you might better understand:

              You’re an anti-communist clown that would gladly collaborate with fascists

              In fact, you’re actively hoping for an opportunity to do so, just so you could oWn tHe tAnKiEs

              Eat shit

              Ah shit I just said the same thing @Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net said, ah well guess there isn’t any better way to say it shrug-outta-hecks

              • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.socialEnglish
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                2 years ago

                Today I learner that I, a far left anarchist that desires the complete abolition of state and a direct democracy of the people, is an “anti communist clown that would gladly collaborate with fascists”. And that apparently worshipping totalitarian dictatorships is the only real form of leftism and is definitely not fascism with a red coat of paint.

                In fact, you’re actively hoping for an opportunity to do so, just so you could oWn tHe tAnKiEs

                Care to show me where I ever said that?

        • Flaps [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          2 years ago

          You don’t know shit about my political opinions

          Neither do you it seems. I’m going to assume a couple of things here, correct me if I’m wrong.

          • You live in a western country
          • you’re no older than 25
          • you’ve never read any theory. No Engels, no Marx, no Lenin, no Luxembourg, nothing.
          • you spend a lot of time watching streamers. probably v*ush, which is the only one I’ve heard of so far and god do I wish I didn’t.
          • your political and ideological views are pretty much a direct representation of the views of said streamers.
          • anything to the left of you, you consider ‘wrongthink’, and attempt to shut down your own learning process by calling everyone who says things you don’t like a tankie.
          • you don’t like tankies because they are ‘authoritarian’ but refuse to learn what the question of authority actually entails. I’ll link Engels’ ‘On authority’ so you can read that and see where we’re coming from (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm). There are also audiobooks because I’m assuming you won’t read this either.
          • you can’t spell ‘bourgeoisie’ without looking it up on the internet.
          • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.net
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            2 years ago

            • You believe that communists stabbed Makhnovia in the back

            • You believe that Makhnovia was an example of anarchist principals put into practice

            • You have no idea that the Makhnovists had a secret police, that they engaged in the summary execution of political rivals, and that committed genocidal acts against German settlers and especially Mennonites in Ukraine

            • You believe that communists stabbed the Spanish Republic in the back

            • You believe that major parts of the Spanish Republic are an example of anarchism put into practice

            • You have no idea that the Spanish Republic had forced labour camps, extreme levels of control over labourers and the movement and spending habits of the people, zero desire to lose their colonial holdings over the part of Morocco that was their colony because they aspired to colonise more of Africa and that they rejected overtures from the Moroccan people who sued for independence with very favourable conditions for the Spanish Republic, and all the apparatuses of state that you would expect from a typical government

            • You are unable to provide a functional definition of fascism without looking it up