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I mean if he was a frothing protestant evangelical then it would lol. They straight up will tell you you could be a literal Demon incarnated in human skin for your entire life but the moment you say “sowwy fwor bwing a mweenie supply side jesus” with your literal dying breath you get a free ticket into heaven.
Yeah that’s what I was taught growing up. “Literally all that determines whether you get into Heaven and Hell is whether or not you are in a state of having accepted Jesus at the moment of your death.”
I thought catholics were basically like that except if you’re a death bed convert you might have to spend some time in the purgatory remedial class before they let you into heaven
Papists are a faith plus works = good sort of deal. Like an internal commitment to being a good little Christian can only be cultivated by actually putting in the material work of being a good little Christian, kind of like how communists say theory without practice is baseless in reality.
I think the deathbed conversion part may be an exception because if you genuinely get hit with the feelies but are no longer able-bodied, it’d be pretty unfair to get the door slammed in your face on your way out and not have a chance of at least bumbling through purgatory until you figure things out. Kinda goes with the story of the good thief that got nailed to the cross with Jesus and says “damn, I really fucked up, think they’ll let me in?” And getting hit with a “sure, bud” before he died.
That makes sense actually. You have to be sincere and if you’re sincere you’ll do what you can to help people, and for some people “what you can do” is pretty much nothing.
It still seems a little unnecessary though. You don’t think 10,000 years is enough time to atone for like 40 years of sin? Really evil neanderthals are still down there suffering and they deserve it? I don’t think I can get behind that.
(Idk if catholics believe in neanderthals but you get the point)
I think theres a whole “if you never were introduced to the faith and lived and died in complete ignorance to it you don’t get a catapulted straight to hell” thing.
I mean if he was a frothing protestant evangelical then it would lol. They straight up will tell you you could be a literal Demon incarnated in human skin for your entire life but the moment you say
“sowwy fwor bwing a mweenie supply side jesus” with your literal dying breath you get a free ticket into heaven.
Yeah that’s what I was taught growing up. “Literally all that determines whether you get into Heaven and Hell is whether or not you are in a state of having accepted Jesus at the moment of your death.”
At least the Calvinists and the Catholics have more qualifiers for getting a ticket to your heavenly slice of pie in the sky, shit.
I thought catholics were basically like that except if you’re a death bed convert you might have to spend some time in the purgatory remedial class before they let you into heaven
Papists are a faith plus works = good sort of deal. Like an internal commitment to being a good little Christian can only be cultivated by actually putting in the material work of being a good little Christian, kind of like how communists say theory without practice is baseless in reality.
I think the deathbed conversion part may be an exception because if you genuinely get hit with the feelies but are no longer able-bodied, it’d be pretty unfair to get the door slammed in your face on your way out and not have a chance of at least bumbling through purgatory until you figure things out. Kinda goes with the story of the good thief that got nailed to the cross with Jesus and says “damn, I really fucked up, think they’ll let me in?” And getting hit with a “sure, bud” before he died.
That makes sense actually. You have to be sincere and if you’re sincere you’ll do what you can to help people, and for some people “what you can do” is pretty much nothing.
It still seems a little unnecessary though. You don’t think 10,000 years is enough time to atone for like 40 years of sin? Really evil neanderthals are still down there suffering and they deserve it? I don’t think I can get behind that.
(Idk if catholics believe in neanderthals but you get the point)
I think theres a whole “if you never were introduced to the faith and lived and died in complete ignorance to it you don’t get a catapulted straight to hell” thing.
Comrade Alaskaball, why do you have a scarlet A next to your name?
we brand our admins so they can’t hide their shame
Moo 🐄
It’s a lemmy symbol for “aubergine” because I am an aubergine enjoyer
Gross
spoiler
Fr*nch
fine, does brinjal work?