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I feel like they are mostly only in the “seriously thinking of buying a gun” phase which will take a few more instances of things happenings before they actually buy them. Then there’s a massive gap between a newly gun owning lib, and a lib that would actually think of using it on an officer, especially if the circumstance is just “greeting” someone at the door and answering some questions, which would fall squarely within their civility realm.
You can get some guns you can bet your life on for $200-$250.
Mossberg Maverick 88 - $250 new.
S&W Shield or SD9.
Beretta APX A1 (or the first gen APX).
Ruger Security 9
Used basic Palmetto State Armory guns will go for a song.
A no-frills AR type rifle can go $400 new, but do your research because quality control is a mixed bag - but some of them are perfectly serviceable.
Realistically, there’s a lot of guns out there that a few range trips will be more in ammo than the gun costs.
If you have a Cabela’s or Bass Pro Shop near you, you can look at their joint nation wide used inventory, no shipping and no FFL fee within their network so it’s just the price plus tax and it’ll arrive at your nearest store.
Stick with the common calibers:
.22 LR for cheap training
9mm for handguns
5.56 for rifle (5.56 rifles can shoot .223 Remington, but .223 Remington rifles are not designed to take the pressure of 5.56.)
12 gauge for shotgun
If you want a high power rifle round go with .308 Winchester.
For the majority of cases of concern for “civil unrest” 9mm and 5.56.
DO NOT BUY SCCY PISTOLS.
Get factory loaded ammo, get some good defensive ammo to test in your gun then hold a reserve of it. Use the cheap stuff for practice.
Practice pistol more than rifle, it’s harder to get good at.
Try and get out once a month to shoot -$20 a month in ammo to keep you familiar with it.
Thanks, i didn’t know they came so cheap. I only have $50 this month outside of rent and food but I will save up and get something soon then. Thanks again
Yeah, but if all you have is $50 left over for the month, your probably better off just saving up in general tbh.
If that’s a regular month then it’s 5 months to get a $250 gun. You might have to buy a permit to purchase in your state too (probably like $10). Doesn’t seem worth it till you get a better income stream.
My partner has a better income than I do thanks to their family and honestly they would need a gun far more than I would. They should have the ability to afford one like that. Gonna talk to them about it. We were under the impression that a decent piece would be atleast $500-1000
Well, $500-$1000 will get you into the nice and new territory, or some more premium used.
It’s an industry that’s seriously overloaded with marketing hype and chuds showing off their new toys. The turnover is akin to computer hardware or new cars, they’re always coming up with some new bang wiz to bring to market with few substantiative changes. Many of the changes are just for feel and comfort, they’re not getting much more accurate or reliable. Most outliers are just poorly built guns that aren’t reliable or accurate.
Like the S&W Shield, first generation was a game changer but the trigger wasn’t for the aficionado. The shield plus fixed that, and the new shield x has a more comfy grip and they put a light rail on it. It’s just a bunch of little features that they milk the market for, then the guy who has to have the latest and greatest says “I don’t want this old toy anymore” and sells it. And some makers will make it so each iteration doesn’t have compatible magazines or parts, and the cycle continues. Some manufacturers make barely any changes tho, like Glock.
But at the end of the day, they all do the same thing - go bang. And if you train with it, you make it go bang and hit where you want it to more often than not.
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I feel like they are mostly only in the “seriously thinking of buying a gun” phase which will take a few more instances of things happenings before they actually buy them. Then there’s a massive gap between a newly gun owning lib, and a lib that would actually think of using it on an officer, especially if the circumstance is just “greeting” someone at the door and answering some questions, which would fall squarely within their civility realm.
I just wish i could afford one
You can get some guns you can bet your life on for $200-$250.
Mossberg Maverick 88 - $250 new. S&W Shield or SD9. Beretta APX A1 (or the first gen APX). Ruger Security 9 Used basic Palmetto State Armory guns will go for a song. A no-frills AR type rifle can go $400 new, but do your research because quality control is a mixed bag - but some of them are perfectly serviceable.
Realistically, there’s a lot of guns out there that a few range trips will be more in ammo than the gun costs.
If you have a Cabela’s or Bass Pro Shop near you, you can look at their joint nation wide used inventory, no shipping and no FFL fee within their network so it’s just the price plus tax and it’ll arrive at your nearest store.
Stick with the common calibers: .22 LR for cheap training 9mm for handguns 5.56 for rifle (5.56 rifles can shoot .223 Remington, but .223 Remington rifles are not designed to take the pressure of 5.56.) 12 gauge for shotgun If you want a high power rifle round go with .308 Winchester. For the majority of cases of concern for “civil unrest” 9mm and 5.56.
DO NOT BUY SCCY PISTOLS. Get factory loaded ammo, get some good defensive ammo to test in your gun then hold a reserve of it. Use the cheap stuff for practice. Practice pistol more than rifle, it’s harder to get good at. Try and get out once a month to shoot -$20 a month in ammo to keep you familiar with it.
Hmu if you have questions.
Thanks, i didn’t know they came so cheap. I only have $50 this month outside of rent and food but I will save up and get something soon then. Thanks again
Yeah, but if all you have is $50 left over for the month, your probably better off just saving up in general tbh.
If that’s a regular month then it’s 5 months to get a $250 gun. You might have to buy a permit to purchase in your state too (probably like $10). Doesn’t seem worth it till you get a better income stream.
My partner has a better income than I do thanks to their family and honestly they would need a gun far more than I would. They should have the ability to afford one like that. Gonna talk to them about it. We were under the impression that a decent piece would be atleast $500-1000
Well, $500-$1000 will get you into the nice and new territory, or some more premium used. It’s an industry that’s seriously overloaded with marketing hype and chuds showing off their new toys. The turnover is akin to computer hardware or new cars, they’re always coming up with some new bang wiz to bring to market with few substantiative changes. Many of the changes are just for feel and comfort, they’re not getting much more accurate or reliable. Most outliers are just poorly built guns that aren’t reliable or accurate.
Like the S&W Shield, first generation was a game changer but the trigger wasn’t for the aficionado. The shield plus fixed that, and the new shield x has a more comfy grip and they put a light rail on it. It’s just a bunch of little features that they milk the market for, then the guy who has to have the latest and greatest says “I don’t want this old toy anymore” and sells it. And some makers will make it so each iteration doesn’t have compatible magazines or parts, and the cycle continues. Some manufacturers make barely any changes tho, like Glock.
But at the end of the day, they all do the same thing - go bang. And if you train with it, you make it go bang and hit where you want it to more often than not.
Same
Hi its your very friendly atf agent here. Please take this entrapment i mean friendly guide on how to make zipguns and slamfire shotguns ok byeeeee also please hold this tape recorder and say in detail which designs youre using