NOW: "Kristi Noem will Hang!" Huge crowd chants in Foley Square NYC, also "Save a life, kill an ICE" as they gather to protest the ICE killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis. Some in the crowd cond...
Agreed that this commentary (which I haven’t heard, but the sentiment is more common) is entirely useless. But there is a real fear that the big burly dudes doing the most radical thing are feds (burning a flag isn’t radical, but is more radical than chanting or marching). It’s good to discuss this in a way much more understandable and useful though. I doubt Hasan (idk about the other person) means that leftists shouldn’t burn a flag at a protest, but that you should be weary if someone else does who shows other signs of being a fed.
Now I think this is wrong, too, but not simply because we don’t know if the person is a fed or not (and I doubt this one was tbh, but that’s irrelevant). I think that, regardless of the identity of the person, a movement should do the actions set out to do and allow those to be done by whoever is around. If a fed burns a flag, let it incite others to do it too, it’s fine and good. If the major or says that flag burning is undesired, I find it weak, but it totally changes that. If a fed starts beating up passersby who have no relation to the protest, they should be stopped and called out. This is an argument of discipline instead of intent
Agreed that this commentary (which I haven’t heard, but the sentiment is more common) is entirely useless. But there is a real fear that the big burly dudes doing the most radical thing are feds (burning a flag isn’t radical, but is more radical than chanting or marching). It’s good to discuss this in a way much more understandable and useful though. I doubt Hasan (idk about the other person) means that leftists shouldn’t burn a flag at a protest, but that you should be weary if someone else does who shows other signs of being a fed.
Now I think this is wrong, too, but not simply because we don’t know if the person is a fed or not (and I doubt this one was tbh, but that’s irrelevant). I think that, regardless of the identity of the person, a movement should do the actions set out to do and allow those to be done by whoever is around. If a fed burns a flag, let it incite others to do it too, it’s fine and good. If the major or says that flag burning is undesired, I find it weak, but it totally changes that. If a fed starts beating up passersby who have no relation to the protest, they should be stopped and called out. This is an argument of discipline instead of intent
Oh Nia Frome said what I was thinking much better actually and I just saw it a second ago: https://x.com/i/status/2009651161289162838